Matt & Kay | Green Llama Founders

Matt and Kay are the founders behind Green Llama, an eco-friendly cleaning brand with a line of non-toxic products safe for you and the environment. Don’t be fooled—for first-time founders, Matt & Kay have built an incredible business from the ground up.

“If we ever do a business in the future…customer interviews are one of the first things I will do.” – Kay Baker

Summary of the Interview with Time Stamps ⬇️

What is Green Llama & How It Started? (0:00 – 0:59)
Green Llama specializes in zero-waste, non-toxic cleaning products. The idea originated during the pandemic when Matt, a neuroscientist, was developing pre-made tablet buffers for labs (0:26). Kay, an occupational therapist, suggested applying the concept to household cleaners (0:29) to reduce plastic waste. They began by mixing formulations at home and converted their garage into a lab (0:49), leading to many “bubbly explosions” (0:59).

Launch (0:59 – 3:47)
Launching at the Johnson City Farmers Market in May 2021 (1:08) proved crucial for Green Llama. Direct customer interaction provided invaluable feedback (1:14), shaping product development and informing their e-commerce strategy (1:36). This experience underscored the importance of building relationships and understanding their target demographic (1:47). Early success, like earning $500 on their first day (2:13), boosted morale. Coming from science and healthcare backgrounds (2:47), they admit initial naivety in business (2:39). The farmers market unintentionally became a source of crucial customer interviews (2:57), a practice they now highly recommend (3:17). They learned the hard way about validating a product’s necessity and ensuring it addresses a true pain point for consumers (3:32).

Sales Channels & Feedback (3:47 – 5:23)
Green Llama adopted an iterative approach, refining their minimum viable product based on market feedback (4:08). They continued attending markets and pop-ups strategically (4:20) while balancing production, distribution, customer outreach, and lead generation (4:31), acknowledging the time constraints of a growing business (4:39). Partnering with local stores stocking locally-sourced products broadened their reach (5:11).

The Power of Mentorship (5:23 – 8:55)
Driven by their passion for reducing waste (5:23), Kay and Matt initially overlooked market competition (5:48). Learning through experience, they sought mentorship through programs like Founders Forge (6:07), gaining crucial business guidance (6:17). Mentorship provided not only knowledge but also emotional support (6:59). They highlight their willingness to learn and implement feedback (7:27, 8:34), creating a positive cycle of growth (7:43). They strongly advocate seeking advice and mentorship (8:05).

Multi-Channel Sales Strategy & Pricing (8:55 – 16:17)
Green Llama utilizes diverse sales channels. Starting with a farmers market and e-commerce site (8:55), they expanded to retail partnerships (9:22), finding wholesale most effective (9:27). They also leverage online marketplaces like Amazon (9:51) and B2B platforms like Faire (10:03), acknowledging Amazon’s complexities while recognizing its market dominance (10:46, 11:07). Their pricing strategy involves calculating comprehensive costs (12:31), including labor and overhead (12:44, 12:57), while researching competitor pricing (13:29) to establish margins (13:23). They emphasize pricing based on cost rather than solely on competition (15:51).

Building a Team & Leveraging Resources (16:17 – 20:33)
Recognizing the need for a team (16:17), they tapped into university networks (18:37) through Founders Forge and ETSU (18:44), finding student contributors (18:57). Pitching and networking further expanded their team (19:12), securing valuable marketing support (19:23). They highlight the power of networking and seeking assistance (19:37). They also strategically used company equity to attract talent and advisors (21:13).

Financial Management & Projections (20:33 – 27:56)
Financial data is essential for Green Llama, informing decisions about resource allocation (23:17). They use financial projections (24:04), incorporating key metrics (25:23), to set goals and identify high-revenue areas (25:53). Funding came from personal resources, pitch competitions, and lines of credit (26:25, 27:06, 27:21). They discuss the challenges of balancing fundraising and business operations (27:56).

Advice for Entrepreneurs (27:56 – 32:07)
Green Llama’s future plans include expanding sales channels, strengthening partnerships, and creating engaging content (29:00, 29:18). Their key advice is to seek out founder groups for support and connections (29:46), find mentors early (30:26), and conduct thorough customer interviews (30:28). They stress addressing a real market need (30:37). They also value the resources and mentorship received through boot camp programs (31:43), which helped overcome their initial lack of business experience (31:30).